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Elise: /* Obviation and Discourse */

2012-12-03T20:35:19Z

Obviation and Discourse

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	\trans Peter loves Mary and Mary loves Peter.		\trans Peter loves Mary and Mary loves Peter.
	</gl>		</gl>

			There is further discussion of the difficulties of pinning down discourse-driven obviation [http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~muehlbau/files/5-Cook-and-Muhlbauer.pdf here], in Cook & Muhlbauer (2006).

	=References=		=References=

Elise: /* Obviation on Verbs */

2012-12-03T18:11:44Z

Obviation on Verbs

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	</gl>		</gl>

	For ~~the~~ plural ~~form~~, an entirely different ending is used for the obviative form (the dual form of the obviative for these verbs has not been seen as of yet):		For plural subjects, an entirely different ending is used for the obviative form (the dual form of the obviative for these verbs has not been seen as of yet):

	<gl>		<gl>

Elise: /* Obviation on Nouns */

2012-12-03T17:33:46Z

Obviation on Nouns

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	If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar) object] of the phrase will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end. This only happens when the object is a singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the ~~bear will receive an~~ obviative suffix, as in the example below:		If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar) object] of the phrase will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end. This only happens when the object is a singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the obviative suffix will attach to ''the bear'', as in the example below:

	<gl>		<gl>

Elise: /* Obviation on Nouns */

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	If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar) \| object] will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end of the singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the bear will receive an obviative suffix, as in the example below:		If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar) object] of the phrase will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end. This only happens when the object is a singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the bear will receive an obviative suffix, as in the example below:

	<gl>		<gl>

Elise: /* Obviation on Nouns */

2012-12-03T17:31:10Z

Obviation on Nouns

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	If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar)\|object] will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end of the singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the bear will receive an obviative suffix, as in the example below:		If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar) \| object] will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end of the singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the bear will receive an obviative suffix, as in the example below:

	<gl>		<gl>

Elise: /* Obviation on Nouns */

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Obviation on Nouns

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	If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the object will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end of the singular noun ([[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the bear will receive an obviative suffix, as in the example below:		If there are two animate third person participants in a phrase, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_(grammar)\|object] will usually be marked as the obviate by adding ''-l'', ''-al'' or ''-tl'' to the end of the singular noun (Mi'gmaq [[Plural Nouns\|plural nouns]] are not marked for obviation; Manyakina 2012). So, for example, in the phrase ''The deer sees the bear'', the bear will receive an obviative suffix, as in the example below:

	<gl>		<gl>

Yuliya: /* Obviation on Nouns */

2012-11-16T16:39:22Z

Obviation on Nouns

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	Some [[Possession\|possessed nouns]] necessarily have obviation marked on them since there are two third persons involved: a possessor (the proximate third person) and a person who is the object of possession (the obviative third person), as in 'his or her friend':		Some [[Possession\|possessed nouns]] necessarily have obviation marked on them since there are two third persons involved: a possessor (the proximate third person) and a person who is the object of possession (the obviative third person), as in 'his or her friend':

	<gl>		<gl id="A">
	\gll w-itap-al\\		\gll w-itap-al\\
	3.POSS-friend-OBV\\		3.POSS-friend-OBV\\

Yuliya: /* Obviation and Discourse */

2012-11-16T16:38:56Z

Obviation and Discourse

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	''Main Page: [[Obviation and Discourse]]''		''Main Page: [[Obviation and Discourse]]''

	An easier way to think of obviation is as a "spotlighting system" in which there is a middleman (Quinn 2006). So, in example ~~(4)~~ above you have to know who "his/her" is (the person in the spotlight) before you know who his/her ''friend'' is (the other person). Obviation, then, is simply used whenever you have to "go through someone else" to get to the person you are talking about (footnote here: Quinn develops a very accessible scenario).		An easier way to think of obviation is as a "spotlighting system" in which there is a middleman (Quinn 2006). So, in example <glr id="A"/> above you have to know who "his/her" is (the person in the spotlight) before you know who his/her ''friend'' is (the other person). Obviation, then, is simply used whenever you have to "go through someone else" to get to the person you are talking about (footnote here: Quinn develops a very accessible scenario).

	When there are two or more animate third persons within a given stretch of discourse in Mi'gmaq, only one third person is allowed to be proximate or in the spotlight. The rest must take the obviative suffix, as shown in the example below (taken from Manyakina 2012):		When there are two or more animate third persons within a given stretch of discourse in Mi'gmaq, only one third person is allowed to be proximate or in the spotlight. The rest must take the obviative suffix, as shown in the example below (taken from Manyakina 2012):

Yuliya: /* Obviation and Discourse */

2012-11-16T16:36:19Z

Obviation and Discourse

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	''Main Page: [[Obviation and Discourse]]''		''Main Page: [[Obviation and Discourse]]''

	An easier way to think of obviation is as a "spotlighting system" in which there is a middleman (Quinn 2006). So, in ~~the possession~~ example above you have to know who "his/her" is (the person in the spotlight) before you know who his/her ''friend'' is (the other person). Obviation, then, is simply used whenever you have to "go through someone else" to get to the person you are talking about (footnote here: Quinn develops a very accessible scenario).		An easier way to think of obviation is as a "spotlighting system" in which there is a middleman (Quinn 2006). So, in example (4) above you have to know who "his/her" is (the person in the spotlight) before you know who his/her ''friend'' is (the other person). Obviation, then, is simply used whenever you have to "go through someone else" to get to the person you are talking about (footnote here: Quinn develops a very accessible scenario).

	When there are two or more animate third persons within a given stretch of discourse in Mi'gmaq, only one third person is allowed to be proximate or in the spotlight. The rest must take the obviative suffix, as shown in the example below (taken from Manyakina 2012):		When there are two or more animate third persons within a given stretch of discourse in Mi'gmaq, only one third person is allowed to be proximate or in the spotlight. The rest must take the obviative suffix, as shown in the example below (taken from Manyakina 2012):

Yuliya: /* Obviation and Discourse */

2012-11-16T16:34:17Z

Obviation and Discourse

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	~~When~~ there ~~are two third persons within~~ a ~~given stretch of discourse~~ in ~~Mi'gmaq, it~~ is ~~usually one that is marked as proximate and~~ the ~~other as obviative, as~~ in the ~~sentence~~ ''~~Lentug nemiatl muinal~~'', ~~above~~. When there are more ~~than two~~ third persons in a given stretch of discourse, only ''one~~'' may~~ be proximate~~; all others~~ must be obviative, as shown in the example below (taken from Manyakina 2012):		An easier way to think of obviation is as a "spotlighting system" in which there is a middleman (Quinn 2006). So, in the possession example above you have to know who "his/her" is (the person in the spotlight) before you know who his/her ''friend'' is (the other person). Obviation, then, is simply used whenever you have to "go through someone else" to get to the person you are talking about (footnote here: Quinn develops a very accessible scenario).

			When there are two or more animate third persons within a given stretch of discourse in Mi'gmaq, only one third person is allowed to be proximate or in the spotlight. The rest must take the obviative suffix, as shown in the example below (taken from Manyakina 2012):

	<gl>		<gl>
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	Peter give-3>3-OBV Mary-OBV potato-OBV\\		Peter give-3>3-OBV Mary-OBV potato-OBV\\
	\trans Peter gives Mary a potato'		\trans Peter gives Mary a potato'
			</gl>

			Moreover, spotlights can shift. What this means is that from clause to clause or sentence to sentence, the person we are talking about can either "gain" or "lose" foreground. Imagine a situation in which you are talking to your friend and you tell him/her that your friend Peter loves Mary. Then, to clarify for your friend that the feeling is mutual you add, "And Mary loves Peter". In your first statement, "Peter loves Mary", Peter has the spotlight. He is the proximate and Mary is the obviative. However, this shifts when you add a second clause, because the last person that you have spoken about was Mary so she is the more prominent person in the discourse:

			<gl>
			\gll Piel gesal-a-t-l Mali-al aq Mali gesal-a-t-l Piel-al
			Peter love-DIR-3>4AN-OBV Mary-OBV and Mary love-DIR-3>4AN-OBV Peter-OBV\\
			\trans Peter loves Mary and Mary loves Peter.
	</gl>		</gl>